ÄATE: 12-30-93 (01:38) ÎUMBER: 12527 OF 12631 (ÒEFER# ÎÏÎÅ) ÔO: ÁÌÌ ÆROM: ÍÁÒËÏ.ÍÁËÅÌÁ@ÈÅÌÓÉÎËÉ.ÆÉ ÓUBJ: Ã65 ÆÁÑ ÐATH: PORTNOY!NEWS2.UUNET.CA!SPOOL.MU.EDU!HOWLAND.RESTON.ANS.NET EUROPA.ENG.GTEFSD.COM!UUNET!ÅÕ.NET!NEWS.FUNET.FI!KLAAVA!KLAAVA!ÍARKO.ÍAKELA ÆROM: ÍARKO.ÍAKELA@ÈELSINKI.ÆÉ (=?ÉÓÏ-8859-1?Ñ?ÍARKO_Í=Å4KEL=Å4?=) ÎEWSGROUPS: COMP.SYS.CBM ÓUBJECT: Ã65 ÆÁÑ ÄATE: 27 ÄEC 1993 02:39:05 +0200 ÏRGANIZATION: ÕNIVERSITY OF ÈELSINKI, ÆINLAND. ÌINES: 310 ÄISTRIBUTION: WORLD ÍESSAGE-ÉÄ: <ÍÁÒËÏ.ÍÁËÅÌÁ.93ÄEC27023906@PLOOTU.ÈELSINKI.ÆÉ> ÎÎÔÐ-ÐOSTING-ÈOST: PLOOTU.HELSINKI.FI ÍIME-ÖERSION: 1.0 ÃONTENT-ÔYPE: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ÉÓÏ-8859-1 ÃONTENT-ÔRANSFER-ÅNCODING: 8BIT ÈERE'S THE ÆÁÑ FILE É PROMISED. ÔHE Ã65 TECHNICAL DETAIL POSTING BY ÆRED ÂOWEN WAS ARCHIVED ON MY ÖÁØ/ÖÍÓ ACCOUNT, WHICH É DON'T USE MUCH THESE DAYS. ÆORTUNATELY É REMEMBERED TO CHECK IT. (ÎODE 16/76 MIN LEFT), (È)ELP,(ÃÒ)MORE,(Î)O ÍORE? ÔHIS FILE CAN BE RETRIEVED VIA ANONYMOUS ÆÔÐ FROM FTP.FUNET.FI. ÔHE FILENAME FOR THE ÇÎÕ ZIPPED VERSION IS /PUB/CBM/FAQ/C65-FAQ.1.0.GZ, THE UNCOMPRESSED VERSION IS /PUB/CBM/FAQ/C65-FAQ.1.0. ÓO, HERE IT GOES: ÃOMMODORE 65 ÆREQUENTLY ÁSKED ÑUESTIONS - ÖERSION 1.0 ÁROUND THE YEAR 1990 OR 1991, ÃOMMODORE ÂUSINESS ÍACHINES WAS PLANNING TO INTRODUCE A SUCCESSOR FOR THE FAMOUS ÃOMMODORE 64, THE ÃOMMODORE 65. ÔHE PROJECT WAS CANNED, MAINLY BECAUSE OF HUGE AMOUNTS OF SOFTWARE THAT PUSHED THE Ã64'S VIDEO CHIP TO ITS LIMIT, AND DID NOT WORK AT ALL WITH THE NEW Ã65'S VIDEO CONTROLLER, ÃÓÇ 4567. ÁLSO, THE MACHINE MIGHT HAVE BEEN TOO EXPENSIVE TO INTEREST THE BIG AUDIENCE. ÉN THIS FILE THERE ARE A FEW ARTICLES CAPTURED FROM THE NEWSGROUP COMP.SYS.CBM AND FROM SOME OTHER SOURCES. É HOPE THAT THEY WILL SATURATE YOUR NEED OF INFORMATION. (ÎODE 16/76 MIN LEFT), (È)ELP,(ÃÒ)MORE,(Î)O ÍORE? ÔHIS FILE WAS PUT UP BY ÍARKO ÍäKELä <ÍARKO.ÍAKELA@ÈELSINKI.ÆÉ>. É DO NOT HAVE A Ã65, SO PLEASE DIRECT YOUR INQUIRIES TO THE COMP.SYS.CBM NEWSGROUP. ---------- ÆROM: FRED@CBMVAX.CBM.COMMODORE.COM (ÆRED ÂOWEN) ÎEWSGROUPS: COMP.SYS.CBM ÓUBJECT: ÒE: ×HAT'S A Ã-65??? ÍESSAGE-ÉÄ: <ÃÄÉ6U2.2UZ@CBMVAX.CBM.COMMODORE.COM> ÄATE: 17 ÓEP 93 14:56:25 ÇÍÔ ÒEFERENCES: <1993ÓEP14.212254.1717@MNEMOSYNE.CS.DU.EDU> ÒEPLY-ÔO: FRED@CBMVAX.CBM.COMMODORE.COM (ÆRED ÂOWEN) ÏRGANIZATION: ÃOMMODORE, ×EST ÃHESTER, ÐÁ ÌINES: 61 >ÔO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THE Ã65 WAS NEVER PUT INTO PRODUCTION. É >VISITED THE PERSON LAST WEEK WHO ACTUALLY WROTE THE ÄÏÓ OPERATING SYSTEM >FOR IT, AND SAW A PROTOTYPE OF IT. ÁCCORDING TO HIM, ÍR, ÇOULD "PULLED (ÎODE 16/76 MIN LEFT), (È)ELP,(ÃÒ)MORE,(Î)O ÍORE? >THE PLUG" ON THE SYSTEM AMONT H BEFORE ITS' COMPLETION DATE. ÔHE ÂRITOISH >MAGS HAD SOME COVERAGE OF IT IN PREVIEWS ABOUT A YEAR-YEAR AND A HALF AGO, >BUT THAT WAS THE END OF IT. ÔOO BAD, CAUSE IT WAS A DECENT LITTLE >CRITTER, WITH A BUILT-IN 3.5" DRIVE, AND A LOT MORE FEATURES AND MEMORY >AND SUCH THAN THE Ã64. ÁPPARENTLY ÇRAPEVINE PICKED UP SOME Ã65'S DURING ÃOMMODORE'S LIQUIDATION OF ITS WAREHOUSE/STORAGE AREAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. ×HAT IS A Ã65? Á PRODUCT THAT ALMOST MADE IT OUT THE DOOR. ×HAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE "ALPHA" PILOT-PRODUCTION UNITS. ÔHERE WERE ONLY SOMETHING LIKE 50 UNITS MADE, AND A DOZEN OR MORE OF THESE WERE DISTRIBUTED AROUND ENGINEERING, SYSTEM DEVELOPERS, ETC. ÏBVIOUSLY, THEY WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE SOLD TO THE PUBLIC, BUT... ÃÐÕ ÃÓÇ65ÃÅ02, RUNNING AT 3.54ÍÈZ ÒÁÍ 128Ë, EXPANSION TO 8Í ÒÏÍ 128Ë, INCLUDING Ã65 MODE (V10.0), Ã64 (V2.2) MODE, & ÄÏÓ ÖIDEO ÃÓÇ4567 "ÖÉÃ-ÉÉÉ" ANALOG ÒÇ WITH COMPOSITE SYNC ON EACH PRIMARY, SEPARATE ACTIVE-HIGH DIGITAL SYNC, COMPOSITE CHROA/LUMA, DIGITAL FGND/BGND CONTROL (GENLOCK) ALL ORIGINAL Ã64 VIDEO MODES (40X25 TEXT, 320X200 BITMAP) NEW MODES (80X25 TEXT, WITH BLINK, BOLD, UNDERLINE ATTRIBUTES) TRUE BITPLANE GRAPHICS (ÖÇÁ RESOLUTION): 320, 640, 1280 HORZ. PIXELS IN 8, 4, OR 2 PLANES 200, 400 VERT. PIXELS, NON-INTERLACED & INTERLACED ÄÁÔ "DISPLAY ADDRESS TRANSLATOR" TO ACCESS DISPLAY MEMORY STANDARD 16-COLOR Ã64 PALETTE PROGRAMMABLE 256-COLOR PALETTE WITH 16 INTENSITY LEVELS PER PRIMARY COLOR. ÁUDIO ÓTEREO ÓÉÄ CHIPS ËEYBD 77 KEYS, INCLUDING SEPARATE CURSOR KEYS, ÁÌÔ, ÅÓÃ, ETC. ÄISK ÂUILT-IN 3.5" DOUBLE-SIDED, 1Í ÍÆÍ (1581 FORMAT) CUSTOM 4191 CONTROLLER WITH 512 BYTE BUFFER AND PARALLEL BUS EXTERNAL MINI-ÄÉÎ FOR ONE Á1011-TYPE EXPANSION DRIVE. ACCEPTS ÃÂÍ SERIAL DRIVES (1541,1571,1581), FAST/SLOW/BURST É/Ï ÂUILT-IN ÄÍÁ/BLITTER ÂUILT-IN 6511-TYPE ÕÁÒÔ, SUPPORTS ÍÉÄÉ DATA RATE. ÁLL Ã64 PORTS: PARALLEL, EXPANSION, ETC. NEW ÒÁÍ EXPANSION PORT, ACCESSIBLE BY ÄÍÁ AND VIDEO CHIPS. É GUESS THAT'S ENOUGH FOR NOW. ÂUT BE WARNED- THESE BOARDS ARE VERY OUT OF DATE- THE ÒÏÍS, ÐÌÁ'S, ETC. ARE PRE-PRE-PREÁÌÐÈÁ, THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY ÎÏ SPARE PARTS (SO IF IT BREAKS, THAT'S IT!), ALL SYSTEMS ARE ÐÁÌ (BUT THEY DISPLAY OKAY ON REGULAR 1084-TYPE MONITORS IN ANALOG MODE). ÏH, AND THERE AREN'T ANY MANUALS. É'M SURPRISED THAT ÇRAPEVINE CAN SELL THEM AS "NEW" EQUIPMENT. ÂUYER BEWARE, AND ALL THAT. ÁLL THINGS CONSIDERED, NOT A BAD MACHINE, THOUGH. É STILL USE MINE :-) -- -- ÆRED ÂOWEN UUCP: ...!RUTGERS!CBMVAX!FRED DOMAIN: FRED@CBMVAX.CBM.COMMODORE.COM TELE: 215 431-9100 ÃOMMODORE ÅLECTRONICS, ÌTD., 1200 ×ILSON ÄRIVE, ×EST ÃHESTER, ÐÁ, 19380 ------------ ÍESSAGE 60 ÔHU ÄEC 23, 1993 Ò.ÄÁÙ AT 20:08 ÅÓÔ É HAVE MY C65! ÇOT IT TODAY ABOUT 3 HOURS AGO. É LOOKED AT HOW THE POWER PLUG HOOKS UP AND IT'S THE SAME AS THE 1581! ÏNLY IT NEEDS 2.2 AMPS FOR +5 VOLTS AND .5 AMPS FOR THE 12 VOLTS. É JUST PLUGED IN MY POWER SUPPLY FROM MY 1581 THAT WILL ALL SO POWER 3 OTHER DRIVES. ÉT CAME UP THE 1ST TIME ON MY 1084 MONITOR. ÔHE 9 PIN PLUG PLUGS RIGHT IN AND THE Õ SHAPED DIN PLUGS RIGHT IN. ÏNLY BLACK AND WIGHT IN 40 MODE BUT COLOR IN 80 MODE. LOOKS LIKE A 128 USING 40 OR 80 IN THE 80 MODE. ÔHE POWER PUPPLY THAT COMES WITH IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY PLUG ON THE END FOR THE POWER TO THE WALL. ÉNPUT SAYS 240ÖÁà 0.17Á. ÙOU CAN HOLD DOWN THE Ã= KEY TO BE IN 64 MODE. ÓTEREO PLAYER WILL LOAD AND WORK BUT DOES NOT SEE THE 2ND 8580 SID CHIP. ÔHERE IS 2 OF THEM IN THE C65. ÍY GUESS IS THE 2ND ONE IS ADDRESSED AT $D480. É WILL HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT. ÔHE BILT IN DRIVE IS A 81 SAYS 73,COPYRIGHT CBM CBDOS V1.0,00,00 ÔHE ONE IN MY Ã65 DOES NOT WORK TOO GOOD. É HAVE TO FIGGER OUT HOW TO MAKE IT A NOTHER DEVICE #. ÙOU CAN PLUG IN A Ã= MODEM AND THE CARTRIDGE PORT WILL NOT FIT C64 OR 128 CARTRIDGES. É THINK IT WOULD WITH A ADAPTER. ÔHE PINS ARE CLOSER TOGETHER JUST A LITTLE. IN THE C65 MODE YOU CAN TO IN A MONITER IT'S LIKE THE 128. ÙOU CAN EVEN SAY GO64 AND IT ASK ARE YOU SURE? ÉT GOES THERE RIGHT AWAY. ÔHE VIDEO IS VERY GOOD. ÉT JUST HAS A BORDER ON THE TOP AND BUTTOM ABOUT 1 INCH. EACH AND THE SIDES ARE A LITTLE SHOWING. ÓO THAT THE SCREEN IS A LITTLE WIDER. ×ELL ANY ONE CAN GET THIS! ÊUST GET THE ÈÄ POWER PUPPLY FROM ÃÍÄ. ÂUT THIS COST É THINK $50. ÉT SHOULD PLUG RIGHT IN TO THE Ã65! É GOT MINE FROM A NOTHER PLACE AND HAD TO PUT A CASE ON IT BUT ONLY COST ME ABOUT $30. ÈAS MORE AMPS THEN THE ÃÍÄ ONE TOO. ×ELL É WILL HAVE TO FIGGER THIS ONE HOW IT WORKS MORE BUT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A NOTHER 128 WITH A BILT IN 1581. ÔHE INSIDE ON THE BOARD SAID FOR SOME CHIP NAMES: ÄÍÁÇÉÃ, ÖÉÃÔÏÒ, ÂÉÌÌ, AND ÅÌÍÅÒ. ÉT ALL SO HAS THIS: ÌÁÓÓÁ/ÇÁÒÄÅÉ/ÎÉÎÅÓÐÃÂ/ÁÎÄÒÁÄÅ/ÊÐ/ÔÌ/ÈÍ/ÔÃ/Ã×/ÆÉÓÈ/ÈÄ/ÇÔ/ÄÆ/ÂÆ/ÅÔà AND MINE SAYS Ã64 ÄØ ÒÅÖ 2 COMMODORE ELECTRONICS LTD COPYRIGHT (C) 191990 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ×ELL É GUESS THAT'S ALL É CAN SAY ABOUT IT. ÉT JUST TOOK THEM LONG TO GET IT TO ME. É WILL HAVE TO CLEAN SOME OF THE DUST OFF THE KEYBOARD TOO. ------------ ÆROM: RALPHEY@KITTYHAWK.AERO.RMIT.ÏÚ.ÁÕ (ÒUSSELL ÁLPHEY) (ÎODE 16/76 MIN LEFT), (È)ELP,(ÃÒ)MORE,()O ÍOE? ÎEWSGROUPS: COMP.SYS.CBM ÓUBJECT: É HAVE A Ã65!!! :))))))))))) ÄATE: 1 ÄEC 1993 06:49:15 ÇÍÔ ÏRGANIZATION: ÒOYAL ÍELBOURNE ÉNSTITUTE OF ÔECHNOLOGY, ÍELBOURNE, ÁUSTRALIA. ÌINES: 90 ÍESSAGE-ÉÄ: <2DHEPB$1F0@AGGEDOR.RMIT.ÅÄÕ.ÁÕ> ÎÎÔÐ-ÐOSTING-ÈOST: KITTYHAWK.AERO.RMIT.OZ.AU ×ITH TREMBLING HANDS É OPENED THE LARGE BOX FROM ÔHE ÇRAPEVINE ÇROUP. ÍY WIFE GRABBED THE INVOICE AND SAID, "×HAT'S A Ã65 WITH BUILT-IN DISK DRIVE?". ÔHIS IS WHAT É HOPED TO FIND OUT! "ÔA-DA!" Á BOX FULL OF FOAM BEADS. ÄIG, DIG, WHAT'S THIS? ÓOMETHING SOLID... ÁND IN THE BOX WAS - 1 Ä.Ó.Ç. PACKET, 1 PIECE CARBON PAPER - CRUMPLED, 1 LATEX GLOVE - GREY, 1 PACKET CONTAINING A 75 ÏHM CO-AX CABLE WITH IDENTICAL ENDS (THE SORT THAT PLUG INTO A Ã64) AND A ÔÖ-COMPUTER SWITCH BOX, 1 BEIGE POWER SUPPLY, WITH THE FAMILIAR Ã= ON TOP, A 4 PIN ROUND CONNECTER AT ONE END AND A FLAT 2 PIN WALL PLUG WITH ROUND PINS. ÔHE UNDERSIDE HAS "ÆÏÒ Ã65 ÏÎÌÙ ÐÏ×ÅÒ ÓÕÐÐÌÙ". ÔHE WORD Ã65 IS ON A STICKER. ÏH, THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING IN THE BOX :))))))))))))))))))))) Á COMPUTER. ÎORMAL Ã= BEIGE COLO(U)R. ËEY LETTERING LIKE THAT ON A Ã128. ÃOMPUTER IS ABOUT 18" BY 8", AND LIKE A FLAT 128, BUT NO SEPARATE KEYPAD (THERE'S A 3.5" DISK DRIVE THERE INSTEAD :). ÔHE DRIVE POINTS FORWARD, WITH THE EJECT BUTTON ON THE LEADING EDGE OF THE KEYBOARD. ËEY LAYOUT IS AS FOLLOWS. LIGHT> ÒUN ÃAPS ÎO Æ1 Æ3 Æ5 Æ7 Æ9 Æ11 Æ13 ÈELP ÓTOP ÅSC ÁLT ÌOCK ÓCROLL Æ2 Æ4 Æ6 Æ8 Æ10 Æ12 Æ14 <- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 + - # ÃLR ÉNST ÔAB Q W E R T Y U I O P @ * ^ ÒESTORE ÃTRL Ó/ÌOCK A S D F G H J K L : ; = RETURN Ã= ÓHIFT Z X C V B N M < > / ÓHIFT ^ ...........SPACE............... < V > ÎOTE THAT # IS THE ÅNGLISH POUND SYMBOL. ÁLSO, THERE'S A SPOT WHERE A METAL PLAQUE COULD GO, LIKE ON THE 64S. ÏKAY, NOW FOR A TOUR AROUND THE COMPUTER. ÌEFT SIDE HAS A RESET BUTTON, ÃONT PORT 1 AND 2 (JOYSTICK PORTS), THE POWER SWITCH AND POWER INLET. ÒIGHT SIDE IS BLANK. ÂACK HAS, (FROM LEFT AS YOU LOOK AT IT) A ROUND HOLE LABELLED DISK DRIVE (BUT NOTHING THERE), A VIDEO PORT (LIKE 128'S), A SWITCH (OR SCREW) LABELLED "Ì È", AN ÒÆ PORT, AN ÒÇ VIDEO PORT, A ÓTEREO PORT WITH Ò & Ì PORTS, A ÕSER PORT, A ÃÂÍ SERIAL PORT, AND FINALLY AN EXPANSION PORT. ÕNDERNEATH THERE'S A FLAP WHICH CONCEALS WHAT APPEARS TO BE A MINITURE CENTRONICS PORT, AND THE MANUFACTURER'S LABEL. ÉT READS - Ã= COMMODOREÍODEL Ã65 ÐOWER 5VÄà @ 2.2Á 12VÄà @ 5Á ÓÅÒÉÁÌ ÎÏ. 000062 :))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ÆÃà ÉÄ ÎÏ. MADE IN HONG KONG ÆUNKENSTORT N.ÄÂÐ-ÖTG 1046/84 ÓO THERE YOU HAVE IT, A REAL? Ã65. (ÔHE :)))) ABOVE IS MY EDITORIAL COMMENT!) ÕNFORTUNATELY É CAN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT ITS OPERATION YET, BECAUSE É HAVEN'T FIRED IT UP YET (MAINLY DUE TO THE INCORRECT PLUG ON THE POWER SUPPLY). ÂUT REST ASSURED É'LL REPORT AS SOON AS É DO! :) ÒALPHEY. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ (ÎODE 16/76 MIN LEFT), (È)ELP,(ÃÒ)MORE,(Î)O ÍORE? | ÙOU ARE NOW THE PROUD RECIPI ENT OF A GENUINE ÒALPHEY .SIG! | | ÁCCEPT NO IMITATIONS. RALPHEY@KITTYHAWK.AERO.RMIT.OZ.AU| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------ ÆROM: GPAGE@NYX.CS.DU.EDU (GEORGE PAGE) ÎEWSGROUPS: COMP.SYS.CBM ÓUBJECT: ÒE: ÄOES ANYONE KNOW?? ÍESSAGE-ÉÄ: <1993ÎOV21.153758.29278@MNEMOSYNE.CS.DU.EDU> ÄATE: 21 ÎOV 93 15:37:58 ÇÍÔ ÒEFERENCES: <2CELDU$237@PDQ.COE.MONTANA.EDU> <931120.57786.ÌÍÃÃÌÕÒÅ@DELPH ÓENDER: USENET@MNEMOSYNE.CS.DU.EDU (NETNEWS ADMIN ACCOUNT) ÏRGANIZATION: ÎYX, ÐUBLIC ÁCCESS ÕNIX AT Õ. OF ÄENVER ÍATH/ÃÓ DEPT. ÌINES: 17 Ø-ÄISCLAIMER: ÎYX IS A PUBLIC ACCESS ÕNIX SYSTEM RUN BY THE ÕNIVERSITY OF ÄENVER FOR THE ÄENVER COMMUNITY. ÔHE ÕNIVERSITY HAS NEITHER CONTROL OVER NOR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OPINIONS OF USERS. ×ELL, SINCE YOU POSTED SOME PRETTY INTERESTING HISTORICAL "TRIVIA", HERE'S A THUMBNAIL DESCRIPTION OF THE Ã65 FROM A PROTOTYPE É SAW LAST ÓEPTEMBER: ÃASE MORE OR LESS THE COLOR OF A 64Ã, DRIVE EMBEDDED OFF TO THE RIGHT WHERE THE 128'S NUMERIC KEYPAD IS, SLOT SLIGHTLY RAISED, WIDE EJECT BUTTON RECESSED IN THE VERY FRONT EDGE. ÔOP ROW KEYS ARE (L TO R) ÒUN/ÓTOP, ÅÓÃ, ÁÌÔ, ÃÁÐÓ ÌÏÃË, ÎO ÓCROLL, THEN 7 Æ-KEYS AND A ÈELP. ÎEXT ROW IS SAME AS A Ã64 TOP ROW (NUMBERS,ETC). ÔHRID ROW IS THE SAME AS THE Ñ×ÅÒÔÙ ROW ON A 64/128, EXCEPT THAT A ÔÁ IS FIRST TO THE LEFT. ÔHE NEXT ROW STARTS WITH ÃÔÌ, AND THEN IS STANDARD. ÂOTTOM ROW IS STANDARD, EXCEPT CURSOR KEYS ARE SIMILAR TO A ÐLUS/4'S. ÂY "STANDAR", É MEAN 64/128 LAYOUT. ÂACK AND SIDES, É'M NOT REALLY SURE-USES A MINI ÄÉÎ FOR AN EXT DRIVE, SEEMS TO HAVE A PAIR OF RED/WHITE ÒÃÁ JACKS (FOR STEREO OUTPUT?), 9PIN VID OUTPUT(?), LONG USER AND EXPANSION PORTS(?). ÏNE OR TWO OTHER ROUND PORTS ON THE BACK. ÐOWER-IN SOCKET, SWITCH AND 2 JOYSTICK PORTS TOWARDS REAR OF LEFT SIDE.(?) (WORKING FROM NOT-TO-FINELY-DETAILED SNAPSHOTS). ÇENERAL STYLING LIKE A 128 OR 64Ã. ------------ ÆROM: GPAGE@NYX10.CS.DU.EDU (GEORGE PAGE) ÓUBJECT: Á BIT MORE Ã65 FOLLOWUP. ÍESSAGE-ÉÄ: <1993ÄEC25.183014.1280@MNEMOSYNE.CS.DU.EDU> Ø-ÄISCLAIMER: ÎYX IS A PUBLIC ACCESS ÕNIX SYSTEM RUN BY THE ÕNIVERSITY OF ÄENVER FOR THE ÄENVER COMMUNITY. ÔHE ÕNIVERSITY HAS NEITHER CONTROL OVER NOR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OPINIONS OF USERS. ÓENDER: USENET@MNEMOSYNE.CS.DU.EDU (NETNEWS ADMIN ACCOUNT) ÏRGANIZATION: ÎYX, ÐUBLIC ÁCCESS ÕNIX AT Õ. OF ÄENVER ÍATH/ÃÓ DEPT. ÄATE: ÓAT, 25 ÄEC 93 18:30:14 ÇÍÔ ÌINES: 24 ×E FINALLY GOT A Ã65 HERE IN THE ÄENVER AREA FROM ÇRAPEVINE. Á USER ON A LOCAL BOARD POSTED THAT HIS HAD COME IN LAST WEEK. ÈE WAS A LITTLE UPSET BECAUSE ÕÐÓ HAD LEFT IT OUT BACK ALONG A WALL WHERE HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT FOR SEVERAL DAYS-AND IT SNOWED DURING SOME OF THOSE DAYS! ×ATER CAME POURING OUT OF THE BOX WHEN HE OPENED IT, BUT THE COMPUTER APPARENTLY WASN'T AFFECTED. ÈIS INITIAL COMMENTS FOLLOW, ROUGHLY QUOTED, PARAPHRASED MANGLED AND OTHERWISE DISTORTED! (G). ÉT HAS TWO MODES OF OPERATION, Ã64 & Ã65. ÕSE THE GO64 OR HOLD Ã= KEY DOWN TO POWERUP IN 64 MODE. (ÊUST LIKE A 128). ÄISPLAYS IN ÒÇ AND ÃOMPOSITE SCREEN FOR BOTH MODES. (ÖERY SHARP Ã64 SCREEN) -É DON'T KNOW YET WHICH MONITOR HE'S USING. ÂOTH 40 & 80 COLUMN SCREENS-BOTH ALLOW SPRITES. ÔHE CARTRIDGE PORT ON THE REAR APPEARS TO HAVE SMALLER PINS THAN A Ã64-HE DOESN'T THINK A REGULAR CART WILL WORK-BUT APPARENTLY HASN'T TRIED. ÒEGULAR SIZE USER PORT. ÁLSO AN EXPANSION PORT ON THE BOTTOM "ALONG THE LINES OF AN ÁMIGA". ÍÌ MONITOR IN Ã65 MODE-"SHOWS THAT YOU CAN PROGRAM FROM 0000 TO ÆÆÆÆÆÆ. ÁT THIS TIME É DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ÒÁÍ IS BUILT IN. ÁLLOWS USE OF ÂANK COMMAND. ÈE HAS BEEN ABLE TO RUN NUMEROUS 64 PROGRAMS ON IT. ÈIS IS A ÐÁÌ ONE, SO SOME OF THE GRAPHICS ARE MESSED UP, MAINLY DEMOS. É'M STILL WAITING FOR MINE.... -- ÍARKO ÍäKELä | Í È ÕNIVERSITY OF ÈELSINKI | A E ÆINLAND | R L . | K SINKI.FI | O @ . ÍARKO.ÍAKELA@ÈELSINKI.FI | . A . ÂITNET: ÍÓÍAKELA@ÆINÕÈ | ÍAKEL .